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Canon i850 light flashing orange by Garyadel (11/8/05 3:22 AM) reply + / -
My Canon i850 has just started flashing orange 7 times and won't print at all. Has all Canon near new carts. Greatly appreciate your help.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by hpwizard (11/8/05 3:44 AM) reply-1 + / -
Probably your waste ink counter. Should be cleaned or replaced before resetting but usually you can get away with resetting once.
1. Start with printer OFF
2. Hold down RESUME and then hold down POWER
3. Release RESUME
4. press RESUME twice, then release POWER
5. let green light blink until printhead has finished moving.
6. Select functions below with RESUME, execute with POWER

0 presses - green light - Test Print (exit service for i960)
1 press - orange light - EEPROM info print
2 presses - green light - EEPROM initialise
3 presses - orange light - reset waste ink counter.

This also applies to the i550, i560, i950, i960

Good Luck, I hope this helps?!
Dazz UK


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by JarekS (1/9/06 5:44 PM) reply + / -
I just encountered the same problem. Tried the above reset trick, still the same. Question about the above procedure though, once you press power to execute the reset waste ink counter command, what if anything should happen? My printer just sits there, so I need to turn it off and back on. And then the orange light starts to blink again. Did I do this right?


Incidentally, according to the Canon troubleshooting procedure, the seven blinks means a problem with the printhead. I tried taking the printhead out, cleaning it, realigning it, nothing has helped. Does this mean I need to buy a new printhead?


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by collin8900 (4/25/06 6:47 PM) reply + / -
i850 blinking 7 times i waste ink full..but clear the reset the waste ink counter is 4 times not 3..=.= i know some manual is say 3 times but actually is 4..

1. Start with printer OFF
2. Hold down RESUME and then hold down POWER
3. Release RESUME
4. press RESUME twice, then release POWER
5. let green light blink until printhead has finished moving.
6. Select functions below with RESUME, execute with POWER


now try press resume button 4 times..after that press the power button


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by collin8900 (4/25/06 6:48 PM) reply + / -
i850 blinking 7 times i waste ink full..but clear the reset the waste ink counter is 4 times not 3..=.= i know some manual is say 3 times but actually is 4..

1. Start with printer OFF
2. Hold down RESUME and then hold down POWER
3. Release RESUME
4. press RESUME twice, then release POWER
5. let green light blink until printhead has finished moving.
6. Select functions below with RESUME, execute with POWER


now try press resume button 4 times..after that press the power button


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by kayjay13 (4/27/06 11:40 AM) reply + / -
OK -- I have the seven orange blinking lights and have tried this reset thing several times. It does not work. At the point it says I should have a green blinking while the print head moves, I still have orange. I am about to toss this thing out the back door. Can anyone help me, providing clear, dumbass-level directions?


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by Techone (4/28/06 5:46 AM) reply + / -
Alternate blinking orange/green after steady green is a waste ink full error.
Blinking orange 7 times after green is a head tempreture error, replace the printhead (QY6-0042-000)
Resetting the EEPROM as some posts here suggest will not solved a bad printhead error.


Re: Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by Anonymous (5/29/06 5:58 AM) reply+1 + / -
I just went to print out my sons pictures for a book report do tomorrow. And the stupid orange light blinked 7 times. errr
Couldnt do a thing. Then after an hour or so on the phone and on the puter trying to get it fixed, I happened onto this post and wow!!! It worked and my 9yr old son is in his glory.
Thanks so much for taking the time to post this. It just saved us here.


Re: Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by Anonymous (10/11/06 6:54 AM) reply + / -
My i850 printer has the same problem, I cannot get rid of the 7 blinking amber light despite several tries. Could you fix your printer ? If so what did you do exactly. Thanks


Re: Canon i560 light flashing orange 3 times by anonymous (11/24/06 2:18 PM) reply + / -
my canon i560 does not print getting error message service error 6000 orange light blinks three times in succession continuously
Does any one know how to fix this error??
Help!!!
I have tried the reset ink overflow it does nothing.



Re: Re: Canon i560 light flashing orange 3 times by Anonymous (12/9/06 3:02 PM) reply + / -
According to the manual, that means there is a paper jam. I have the same problem but no !^%$@&^%@ paper jam! Anyone else know what to do???


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by jjjjjjjjjj (5/1/07 3:15 PM) reply + / -
Tried everything above and was about to start looking for a new canon (It has been a great printer).
Then I found the another similar thread:-
http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/inkjet/31149
Tried everything but no success. Finally I saw a suggestion that recommended switching off the printer and disconected the USB cable for 30 seconds. I started the printer expecting the 7 flashes to appear BUT they were gone. I had to to a deep clean on the black head to get it working properly but all seems to be fine now.


Re: Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by Anonymous (5/1/07 4:34 PM) reply+1 + / -
I want to thank you! This type of information is a lifesaver! I own a Canon iP 1600, and decided to take a chance on getting the paper jam issue fixed. For 4 days I was trying to figure out how to remove that paper, and come to find out, all the paper was small pieces that had jammed up! When I did the press button excerise you listed...it worked!

Thank You!!!!!!!!!!!
Sheryl


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by gerbert (11/2/07 10:49 AM) reply + / -
ik heb dit net op een canon i865 uitgevoerd.
Gewldig!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hij werkt weer nog bedankt!!


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (11/2/07 10:48 PM) reply + / -
I think I can clear up some of the problems that people are having using this function. What you are doing is forcing the printer into "Service Mode". Here is how you do it. Read this entire post and understand it before you try it.

1. Start with printer OFF
2. Hold down RESUME and then press and hold down POWER Button.
3. Release the RESUME but continue to hold down the power button
4. Press the RESUME twice, then release POWER button.

Now you have put the printer in Service Mode so it will accept Service commands. Here is the list of Service commands;

A. Press the Resume button once = Print Service test print
B. Press the Resume button twice = Print EEprom data sheet
C. Press the Resume button Three = Initialize the EEprom
D. Press the Resume button Four = Clean Waste INk Counter
E. Press the Resume button Five = Change Destination settings
F. Press the Resume button Six = Head Refreshing (Cleaning)
G. Press the Resume buttom Seven, Eight, Nine, = Not used
H. Press the Resume button Ten = Return to selection Menu

To EXECUTE anyone of the above commands you "MUST Press the Power button one time. Then the function will be executed. After that function has been executed the printer will REMAIN in Service Mode,.. waiting for another command. You can only execute one command at a time. If you are through with all the commands you want to do, just press the power buttom one more time and it will turn the printer off and you will be out of Service Mode. One more note. When you get the printer into Service MOde and it is ready to accept a command, the green light will be on and steady. As you issue a command by pressing the resume button, it will alternate the color from green to orange with each press of the resume button. Remember, if you issue either one of the commands to force a print make sure you have paper installed.

For all those people that could not get the "Waste Ink Reset" to work, it was because you didn't do it right. It sounds complicated but it is actually very simple. You can do it with one hand using your middle finger and you thumb,... that is if you know how to play a piano.



Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by solebattleford (11/5/07 12:30 PM) reply + / -
This is informative and I have tried your suggestion. Im pretty sure that that I am on the right track but even if it is on service mode, the printer does not do anything. What do you think might be the cause? DId I mmiss anything from your instructions?


Thanks


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (11/5/07 6:14 PM) reply + / -
solebttleford,..First of all you need to provide a description of what your printer is doing.. Does it even power on? If you can get into the Service Mode as I described, and you push the resume button one time and then the power button, it will at least attempt to print the Service Test print pattern if you have paper in the printer. See if you can get that far. If not, then you are still doing something wrong and never really getttin into service mode.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by PoRo (11/7/07 7:20 AM) reply + / -
I tried all of the above, and now my printer not only won't print, it won't shut off. I have to unplug it. AND it says printer off line.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (11/7/07 6:02 PM) reply + / -
PoRo,...???? Don't know how you got started on this thread. Don't know what kind of printer you have, don't know what problem you were trying to solve when you "Tried all of the above". Sometimes you can try things that you should not have done. If you pull the plug like you said you did and wait a couple of minutes you should be able to put the power back and try again. Don't try and tell me this doesn't work as I use it every day and have done it on all kinds of printers.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by PoRo (11/8/07 7:21 AM) reply + / -
Okay, I have the Canon i850, and it flashes orange 7 times, then green once. I tried what you described above with the resume/on buttons but when I'm finished it's still doing the same thing. And yes I play the piano!! I've spent two hours trying to get this to work. After that, if I hit resume one time I get a steady green but my computer then says the printer is offline. Any help you can provide would be wonderful. I'm in a small fishing village in Mexico with few resources. Portland Rose


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (11/9/07 9:49 PM) reply + / -
PoRo,.....This is exactly what I mean when you have to know a little about what you are doing. There are two kinds of error signals and two kinds of flashes. The first is call "Operator Codes", and this consist of "REPETATIVE Flashes of Orange only, and then back to green. 7 flashes of orange for the i850 is a Carriage Jam error, or some other kind of error with the carriage. I'll get back to those in a moment.

The second kind of flashing signals are called "Service Errors" and are not ment for customers but for only Service people,..or just to let you know you need to have your printer service. These codes are "ALTERNATE Green-Ornage" flashes that also end up at Green and then repeat the sequence. For example, G-O-G-O-G-O-G-O-G-O-G-O-G-O-GGGGGG, means the Waste Ink Error, and this is the only error that can be reset in Service Mode.

You were trying to reset a Carriage Jam, or Purge unit Jam, or one of the other 5 things that can cause this "Operator Error Code. That would never work,...LOL...

Your error could be caused my the Purge unit sticking in some bad position because it is all gummed up with ink. Or There could be some kind of paper stuck in the gears of the purge unit, or one of the purge unit gears popped out of gear, or some piece of paper is stuck under the carriage and won't let it move, or it won't move at the right speed, or one of the ink carts has popped up and is catching on something, or you got some ink on the Timing strip that runs through the back of the printhead, or the drive belt that moves the carriage asm is broken, or the tension spring that holds the drive belt taunt popped off, or the drive belt motor connector is blown or it's cable came unplugged, orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr,,, wait a minute,.. I went over my list of 5 things,...oppps.

Now it is time for you to tell us more on just what the printer is doing. We know it give you 7 orange flashes. Start with tuning the power off, waiting for 2 minutes, then turn it back on and describe each thing it does. It is OK to open the cover and watch the inside guts as it will still do all of the internal testing before it ever tries to move the head to the center. We need to know the exact sequence of the Green power light.


Re: Canon i960 light flashing orange 5 times by wendy73 (11/10/07 1:40 PM) reply + / -
my canon i960 binks 5 times then green and repeats 5 orange flashes/green. will not print. Thanks


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by PoRo (11/11/07 8:01 AM) reply + / -
Trigger 1937, Okay, I unplugged it for a day, plugged in, turned on, it flashed green once, then orange 7 times, back to green once, and so on. The carriage moved from right to left 1/3 of the way, then back right, and then to center. With the door open (so I could watch) the light flashes green continuously, but with the door closed it's back to G1, O7. When I closed the door, the carriage slid to the right and then back to center. If I try to print, eventually a get "an error has occurred..." I am very grateful that you're taking the time to help me on this. Thanks, Portland Rose


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (11/11/07 10:15 PM) reply + / -
Portland Rose,... Nice name,.. Anyway,... as my last post indicated, your problem has nothing to do with the Waste Ink Error. YOu have some kind of problem with the Carriage. I was very serious about the things I mentioned. It could be anyone of them. However, since you told me the carriage does go through the normal movement cycle and can bring the head to the center to change the printhead or ink, that says your Carriage is not jammed.

In looking at the Service Manual for the i850, this error is called the BJ Cartridge Error. This could mean that there could be a problem with the printhead, or ink carts, or the photocell system that detects the ink carts, or the connections between the printhead and the carriage, or the cables that connect from the logic board to the carriage ASM,..orrrrr, etc.

First thing to do, is open the cover and when the printhead moves to the center, open and close the printhead locking lever a couple of times. Then close the cover and see if any thing has changed. All this does is wipe the contacts on the back of the printhead where they mate with the Carriage ASM.

If that did nothing, move the head to the center and unplug the power cord. Remove all the ink carts and cap them so they don't leak. Remove the printhead and clean the contacts on the back of the head using a tissue and some Isopopyl Alcohol. you may want to softly clean the ink off the bottom of the printhead before you do this. Now use the same tissue to clean the contacts inside the Carriage ASM. Use the tissue to wipe in a downward motion on the contacts as they are spring loaded to move down and not up. What you are trying to do is remove any ink or finger prints that might have contaminated the printhead.

While you have the printhead out, you can move the carriage asm over to the far left and inspect the ink purge pads. These are the two pads that are pressed against the bottom of the printhead when it is parked. This helps to prevent the head from drying out. Inspect the purge unit to see that it is not stuck in some wrong position. With the cover open when you do a power on cycle, you should be able to see the while parts of the purge unit move back and forth and wipe the ink pads while the printhead is moving around. You don't get a lot of time to see this, but all you have to know is that the parts are moving and not locked up.

While the power is unplugged, you can move the Carriage back and forth to see that it does not stick or drag in any position. Move it to the far left and with a flash light, inspect the timing strip that passes through the back side of the carriage ASM. It is held tight to both ends of the main chassis. You should not see any ink or finger prints anywhere on the timing strip. This strip is only 1/4" wide and is basically clean mylar with high density black lines. These lines are sensed by a photo sensor in the back of the carriage asm. IF there is any ink on this, you need to carefully clean it off with the tissue and the ISPO. Use very soft pressure to wipe the strip.

Try these things and let me know what happens.

Put

Out the printhead back in


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (11/11/07 10:26 PM) reply + / -
Wendy 73,... Yours is a very similar problem as ProRose... 5 orange flashes for a i960 is telling your that there is something wrong with the printhead. It is not makeing good contact where it is seated. Try doing the same things I told Rose, but do them one at a time and then test the printer to see if anything changed. When you open the cover, inspect the insides with a flash light as close as you can. With the cover open, turn the printer on and off and watch all the internal mechanism, even the white purge unit which is in the far right insides where the head sits when it is parked.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by PoRo (11/12/07 12:50 PM) reply + / -
Trigger, I tried all of your suggestions. Still won't work. I'm going back to Portland tomorrow and will return with a new printer. I needed a scanner/fax combination anyway.I really appreciate your time and help and hope your suggestions to me help other hapless printer owners. Muchas gracias, Portland Rose


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (11/12/07 11:04 PM) reply + / -
ProRose,.. I know how easy it is to get frustrated with electronic things,.. like Computers, Software, Printers, Cars, etc. To me it is always a challenge. I hate to give in to Electronics, especially computers and printers,... actually just about anything. Because of this I have stuck with things that are not working until I have LEARNED what is wrong and then how to fix them. Once you fix one, and then another,.. the satisfaction builds your confidence that you can just about fix anything.

Anyway, one more step before you throw out your printer. Turn the power on and open the cover. When the printhead comes to the center, plug the plug out of the printer. Take out the ink cars and the printhead and close the carriage lock, and close the cover. Plug the power cord back in and turn the power on,... does the printer come up to a solid green light.

If so, put the printhead back and the ink carts. If the Ornage flashes come back, and you've tried all the other things I suggested, you probably have a bad printhead, which will cost you about $40. Otherwise, like you said, your off to Portland to get a new printer. By the way, Canon has the new MP530 All in one unit at their Estore on sale for $99. I think that is a great deal.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by PoRo (11/13/07 6:28 AM) reply + / -
Trigger, I just tried your latest suggestions, and got so excited when I got steady green, then when I closed it up...yup, back to orange. Grrr. I think I'll take your suggestion and get the all in one MP530 for $99. I love your tenacious spirit and have actually enjoyed getting, to know a little better, how this thing works. Guess I'll get a new printhead for this one as well, then I'll have a back-up. Can't even print my boarding pass this morning! Again, thank you so much for taking the time to help me with this, and you're right we should all know more about the machines that run our lives. Portland Rose in Kino


Re: Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by Anonymous (11/13/07 7:02 AM) reply + / -
Thanks for your help trigger, I tried what you suggested and still get the five flashes. I believe I will go for a new printer. Thanks!


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (11/13/07 10:51 PM) reply + / -
PoRo,.. and the other anonymous... The test that Rose did, and first got a solid light (when the printhead and the ink carts were removed) is that the rest of the machine was OK,... and that the printhead was the problem. It may have not been a "Dead Printhead", but something very close to that. All of this is helpful to me, as I keep a log on error for future reference. I'm trying to create a technique where I identify a good or bad printhead,...but without any help from Canon it is very difficult.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by BAB (edited 11/14/07 7:06 AM) reply + / -
Trigger and PoRo:
Ok well just got in on this one. If that i850 had come into the shop, and was blinking 1 long green then 7 solid orange, its a print head temperature problem, probably to high, and the first and normal course of action is to replace the print head. Don't spend any time trying to clean or fix it, once it goes into a printhead temp mode the print head is done. New print head would be QY6-0064-000

BAB
Canon Authorized Tech


i850 flashing orange green orange green by Cavefolk (11/24/07 7:08 AM) reply + / -
I've read this forum with great interest because my i850 has been flashing green, then orange 7 times, green. This started after I'd had a mild paper jam where I was able to remove the whole sheet.

I tried to go throught the procedure to reset the waste tank. Now, the printer flashes green orange green orange green orange. When I open the lid, the ink cartridges do not come to the center, they are to the right side under the casing.

Hope you can tell me what this means or what I've done wrong. I'm unfamiliar with all this, so would appreciate simple instructions if that's at all possible.

This has been a great printer and I don't want to part with it. Hope you can help me save it.

Mike


Re: Canon i850 waste ink container replacement by Cavefolk (11/24/07 12:15 PM) reply + / -
After trying to reset the waste ink counter and have failed. Now, my i850 printer is flashing green, 8 oranges, then green again...

I wonder, is an waste ink container (and sensor?) available for me to purchase for my i850 printer? And is it possible for me to replace this part?

It's been such a good printer, I hate to trash it. I'd appreciate any advise you might have.

Thanks,
Mike


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (11/25/07 11:14 PM) reply + / -
Cavefolk,... Wow,...your error conditions have been all over the place. The first one of Green, 7 orange, Green, was a bad printhead indication and had nothing to do with waste ink counter error. No telling what you did when you were in Service Mode trying to reset a Waste Ink error that was not there. The second code you got of Green-orange-green-orange,... there is no such error code. I suspect that you might have erased the eeprom data and now you have not set the destination. If you turn the power off and started all over again, who knows what it is. Anyway, your current error is really the waste ink error.

So how did you go from one to the other and what happened to the other error codes. When you open the cover does the printhead now come to the center?

To get at the real waste ink pads and clean them or replace them you have to disassemble the entire printer down to the bottom of the machine. If your really have a "Waste INk Error" right now, just go ahead and try reseting it. Print out the Service test print and see what the D=XXX value is. Print out the EEprom data to see if you had reset that by accident. Let us know and we'll go from there.

Be sure to go back and re-read the post I made about getting into Service Mode, and make sure you understand what you're doing. If you can successfully print the Service Test Print, and print the EEprom data, then you should know how to get at the rest.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by Cavefolk (11/26/07 7:50 AM) reply + / -
Trigger, thanks for taking so much time to analyze my mess. At first I was having seven orange flashes in a row, so I cleaned the printhead with alcohol. Then, after that I had eight flashes in a row. You might wonder if I miscounted. I wondered myself so I asked a friend to count the flashes. He also counted eight flashes.
I read your suggestions and tried resetting again. Now, I'm back to getting seven orange flashes. I cleaned the printhead again, but still get the seven flashes.
I'm really frustrated and don't know what to do. Do you think there is there any hope for me and this printer? Hope you can help. I love this printer, but don't have a lot of extra money. Sure hope I can make this one work again for me. I really appreciate your help, thanks so much.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (11/26/07 4:56 PM) reply + / -
Cavefolk,... If you are still getting Green + 7 orange +Green, that is the printhead. There are two possibilities. 1. The printhead is dead. 2. When you cleaned the printhead you got it contaminated on the rear contacts and it is not making good contact with the carriage asm. You said you used alcohol, was this Isopropyl Alcohol?. I would never use just strait IPA. Water or Windex with Water is the best cleaner. You never need anything stronger. Ink is water soluble and no other chemical is better. It just takes a lot of patients. If your printhead was working a couple of days before it stopped, and you tried cleaning it with water and that didn't work, you probably just have a bad printhead.

Your problems started with the flashing orange lights. What was the printer doing before that. Was it printing OK. Had any of the ink carts run dry. Did the printer act funny,..like slowing down each print job in the middle of print. Where you doing only black text for a long time.. If you love your printer and you don't want to spend a lot, buy a new printhead from Canon. They are only about $36 plus shipping. If you don't want to do that, then check online at the Canon store, or at Staples cause both of them have excellent sales from time to time.

I sell a complete repair manual for the Canon i850 that comes with Canon Service Manuals and Parts Catalogs and sufficient photo details and instructions on how to repair just about every thing in the printer. It also contains information on how to maintain your printer so it will last much longer. I sell this on eBay from time to time for $25 which is just a little more than what other people get for just the Service Manual and Parts Catalog.

I just check the Canon eStore and they have a refurbished iP4200 printer on sale for $59. This comes with new ink and a one year warranty. Basically the same as a new printer. If you loved your i850, you will be estatic about the iP4200. Sell you i850 on eBay and buy the iP4200. When it comes time to refill your ink, buy some ink and refill it. Your only other choice is to buy Canon ink carts or Compatible ink carts from Vendors on the Internet.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by Cavefolk (11/27/07 5:28 AM) reply + / -
Trigger, thanks so much for your advise. I've learned a lot from this experience and I guess that's the important thing. I'm getting 8 orange flashes this morning :-). I'm going to take my i850 apart when I have the time, but also I've decided to buy me a new printer and I appreciate your heads-up on the iP4200 for sale. Sounds great. Do you know, does Canon make sure and replace the waste ink pads and printheads in the refurbished printers? What else goes wrong with these printers that I should be concerned about? Sure am grateful for your advise, thanks yet again.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (11/27/07 8:27 AM) reply + / -
Cavefolk, When Canon factor does a refurbish it is like a brand new printer, including ink, pads, and printhead. It is the same for most manufacturers,...the cost of labor and time is much more than what the parts cost so they don't mess with even testing anything that they took out of the printer. That is a waste of their time.

When you get one of these via Canon shipping, the only difference is that it will come in a "Brown--Refurbished" box and not a new product box. As soon as you get it, test everything, including removal of ink carts and replacing them a couple of times. YOu will know you have a new printhead because it will come in a sealed foil package. The waste ink pads in these printer can really last a lifetime, but Canon counts the ink they dump and stop the printer once that count gets to some majic number they have. You can always check the waste ink value by going into Service Mode and printing the Service test pattern. Have you done that on your i850 yet. What is the value of "D". If your i850 has 8 oranges again, you must not have reset the counter, as it does not come back on once reset. Print out the Service test and tell me the values.

The iP4200 controls are the same as the i850 and so is the reset of the Waste ink Error if it ever comes on. You have to know that the iP4200 printer (and all new printers after that one)have chipped ink carts that prevent you from ever putting any ink cart in the Canon except one that is manufactured by Canon. So as I said before, buy a "Refilling Kit" from someone like "Precision Colors", or Atllanticinkjet.com and "BEFORE YOUR INK RUNS OUT", refill each ink cart, one at a time. Then your can refill the same carts 5-10 times depending on how much you print and how old the carts get. Atlantic is now selling "Re-manufactured" Canon ink carts for about half price, but still way more expensive than refilling yourself.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by eddie9433 (12/19/07 9:00 AM) reply + / -
Ok guys, here's my story. I own both a canon i550 and i850. I used the i850 alot. One day, the i850 started with the 1 green light, 7 orange lights syndrome and stopped printing so I switched to my i550 and forgot about the problem.

three months later, I've decided to get to the bottom of this. I plug in the i850 and I don't have those lights anymore. I try to print a test page and it does print(!) but very poorly. My guess is that the printhead is clogged from the 3 months of sitting. (I have not been using OEM products)

As I said before, my i550 works well (not great with color, but it's crisp with text), so I figure, to be sure it's a PH(printhead) cleanliness issue, I'll switch the PHs in the printers and see if I get a better print on the i850 using the i550PH. When I put the i550PH in the i850 I got the lights again. So I went through the steps listed above (clean waste ink counter) nothing worked. Worried that I messed everything up, I switch the PHs back (put the i550PH in the i550) and thankfully the i550 still works.

My next step is to try to clean the i850PH, since for some reason, the i850PH works in the i850. (at the moment!)

The confusing bits are:
1) Why, after 3 months, did the light problem go away?
2) Why, when I switched PHs, did I get the light problem back?

And on a slightly unrelated note, though it may be important, the i850 was left on for long periods of time and was inactive for most of that time.

Thanks for your help.
Adam


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (12/19/07 10:46 PM) reply + / -
eddie9433,... Wow,... you must really be lucky. YOu also did some pretty crazy things. Number one, the printhead in the i550 is not compatible with the i850. You should have never swapped them. The reason the 7 flashes came back was that the printer was telling you it was the wrong printhead. The part number for the i550 is QY6-0045 and the P.N. for the i850 is QY6-042. You are luck you did not burn it out.

You were also luck that when you let the i850 set for several months that it would even print at all. If it is printing now, even if the print is poor, do some deep cleaning cycles and see if the print quality improves. Do this by checking the nozzle test pattern. To see exactly which nozzles are printing good, go into the Service Mode and print a Service test pattern. This will show you the printout of each and every nozzle individually.

I've explained how to get into the Service test mode in other post on this forum,...just do a search on "Service TEst Mode"

Post a note on how your pattern look like. It they are not good, do a cleaning of the printhead by removing all the ink carts, remove the printhead, do another search on this forum or on the Nifty-stuff forum for the process on how to clean a Canon printhead.

By the way, the 7 orange flashes can be one of 10 different things, all summed up in three parts, 1. Printhead errors, 2. Carriage errors, 3. Logic card errors. IF you take it to a service tech with that kind of error they don't have time to do a full diagnostic to pin point the problem so they do just a couple of quick test to see if a new printhead fixes the problem. If it does your out of there with a new $55 printhead and $85 labor. If the printhead didn't fix the problem, there is no way they are going to take out and replace the carriage since that would cost as much as 2 new printers,... and the same goes for the logic card.

I have seen this same error caused by the purge unit be so gummed up with dried up ink that it sticks in the extended position and this will create a carriage movement error. While you're cleaning your printhead, use some windex and spray the purge unit and the purge pads, then cycle the power on and off a couple of time (3 minute intervals) to force the purge unit to clean itself. It should suck the Windex down through the pads into the waste area and clean on the wiper blades.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by carlm21 (12/31/07 8:01 PM) reply + / -
Hi trigger1937. I had the same problem with a i850 I got of Ebay at cheap price since it was described as not printing. I tried cleaning prinhead several times the way you described in your service manual with no results good. I got another printhead and ran print test and low and behold it showed perfect with all new fresh lines etc. I now have 3 i850's all acting like brand new printers with instructions from you and the others I sent copy of to you. I also picked up a pixma ip3000 new for being able to print to cd's & dvd's and after checking with differant inkjet ink suppliers such as Precision Colors and Mr inkjet that the ink for all my printers is the same which means all I need is one set of 8 oz bottles for all four printers until cartridges go bad.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (12/31/07 10:14 PM) reply + / -
Carl,... Congratulations on your good work... I guess you will be selling those printers now that you have them all working.

It sounds like the printer you got off of ebay had a "Dead" head. Once you put in a good head now you have a $125 printer again. I'm glad my manual was of help to you.

You are correct about all printers using the same ink. I now have over 75 printers, 30 of which are Canon and I can use the "HIgh Quality INK" from Precision Colors in all of them. I buy my ink from them in 16oz bottles because I have so many printers to refill.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange 9 times by bsydnes (1/23/08 11:49 AM) reply + / -
My i850 printing over a USB port on Win XP Pro SP2 is flashing green then orange 9 times when you attempt to print anything from the system.

Will print a nozzle check from system (Canon maintenance mode)when initially powered ON - nozzle check pattern looks good but text when it printed was "off color" due to alignment (I think);
Now something has changed and if I try to print an alignment pattern the printer goes OFF Line and the flashing begins or starts if you attempt to print anything from Word, etc.

Have tried reinstalling the printer and printer drivers with no success. Have tried installing on parallel port with no success. Tried on second computer with same results.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Bill


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (1/23/08 9:05 PM) reply + / -
bsydnes,.. According to the Service Manual, the 9 orange flashes is an EEProm error condition. I would pull the power cord and let it set for 5 minutes. Then see if it will come back up to ready. If not your only option is to go into Service Mode and initialize the eeprom. Once you do that you will also have to set the country code. I've made a long post on this forum somewhere all about the Service Mode. Just search for it.

Don't mess with any "Alignment". It's a waste of time until you get all you colors printing correctly. Get the nozzle check working first. Once you get your Windows driver installed it should be fine. I've never had a problem with that. Are you using the lastest driver from the canon Web site?


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by carlm21 (1/24/08 5:08 PM) reply + / -
Yes Trigger1937, I'm keeping at least two of them and with IP3000 for cd, dvd printing labels what else do I need?? I've seen the price for a new i850 at still the $179 it sold for back in 2002 but can you really get as low as $125 for a serviced one?? The printheads are now $39 plus postage and up to $75 from some companies. When Canon makes something good then gose astray what can we do??


Re: Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by Anonymous (1/24/08 6:48 PM) reply + / -
How do you set the country code? I reset the eprom but did not know to set the country code.

Perhaps that's the problem.

Prior to failure mode, nozzels printed ok then the 9 blink error occured. No progress since then.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (1/24/08 8:13 PM) reply + / -
Anonymous,... Get into Service Mode and once there press the Resume button 5 times. You are now ready to set the Destination code. If you do nothing and then press the power button you have selected a Destination of "Domestic". If your press the resume button once after waiting a minute and then press the power button, you have set destination code of "1" which is "Overseas". These are the exact words out of the Service Manual.


Re: Canon by Anonymous (1/24/08 9:51 PM) reply + / -
has all canon printer have a waste pad ???


Re: Re: Canon by carlm21 (1/24/08 10:03 PM) reply + / -
All Canon printers from the 600 series or before have what they call waste ink foam pads which are in base of printer and unless you know how to repair can be a pain to do. Guys like Trigger who have been repair techs learn all the secrets and are now letting public know some of them. A person with mechanical prowness can repair if he's told how to do it and save a minimum of $40 service charge and orders parts thems selves or cleans the waste pads! Printheads run about $45 now from some sorts but sometimes that is all that is wrong with a $179 printer. There are various ways to refill cartridges with ink and some printers use the same ink but just differant types of cartridges.


Re: Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by Anonymous (1/25/08 5:13 AM) reply + / -
Trigger - does domestic mean USa or does Overseas?

Guess I can try both and see what the difference is.

What does resetting the EPROM do?


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (1/25/08 1:47 PM) reply + / -
It is the initialization of the eeprom data. I'm not that familiar with the content of the eeprom data but it is all listed in the Service Manual. If you are getting an error message that says "EEProm error", that suggest that the last time some information was written to the eeprom, there was an error, so the system thinks the data is no longer valid. If his is true, and I am only guessing about this, then the initialization should clear the error. You can forget the destination code. I just re-read the Service Manual and the Destination code and the Waste Ink Count are two things that are not affected when the EEprom is initialized. That makes it simple for you.

One thing you should do, if you haven't already done the reset, is to print the current contents of the EEProm so you can see the data. Then after you reset the prom print the data again.

While you are in Service Mode, press the "Resume" button twice and then the power key and you will print the eeprom data. Make sure you have paper loaded. After the print you are still in Service Mode. Press the resume 3 times and then the power and you will reset the eeprom data. One last thing,.. you should also print out the Service TEST pattern and this is done by pressing the resume button one and then the power button. In the text field of that print, just after the i850 will be the "Destination Country" code. It will be "US" or "Eur" or whereever you are. To get out of Service Mode, just press the power button.

Sorry if I gave you bad info at first. I had to read the manual closer. Hope this helps.




Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by William L Sydnes (1/25/08 2:25 PM) reply + / -
Trigger,

Thanks for the info. I'll try next week - deadline this week and early next week.

Where can I obtain a Service Manual? Most of these questions would be unnecessary if I had good technical documentation.

Tahnks for the help!

Bill


Re: Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by carlm21 (1/26/08 2:46 PM) reply + / -
You can purchase one manual on i850 from Trigger1937 and if you are ebay customer from another party that has them. The ebay party just sells Canon copies of manual but Trigger1937 sells set by step service manuals and suggestions on how to refill cartridges.


Re: Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (1/27/08 12:03 AM) reply + / -
William,... As Carl mentioned in his post, I have created Repair Manuals for many Canon printers. These manuals contain detailed high resolution photos and instructions on how to disassemble and repair just about everything that is possible in a Canon Printer. This "Repair Manual" is in PDF format such that when you view it on your PC you can enlarge the image such that you can see each and every detail. The manuals are typically 40+ pages long and contain 25+ photos. The manual will teach you how to clean Printhead, purge units, remove and clean waste ink pads, and reset all the eeprom data. I provide this manual on a CD and I also include the Canon Service Manual and Parts catalog as well as all other canon documentation and software programs and printer drivers for your PC. I also include Photographic test images that help you test your printer and produce the best photo prints.

I have created these manuals for all the Canon printers from the i550,i560,i850,i860,i950,i960,iP3000,iP5000,and the MP700-MP730 multifunction units. I initially only provided these manuals to people who purchased one of my refurbished printers but I have since started selling them from time to time on eBay. I am currently working on the Canon Pixma series and the iP4200, thru iP6700. I am also working on a considerable number of Hewlett Packard printers as well as many Epson printers.

For anyone that owns a printer and needs to take care of it or to fix it, I believe it is a great bargain at $25. This is what most people have to pay for two ink carts or to buy the standard Canon Service Manual and Parts Catalog. It can save you the cost of a new printer. It will also teach someone how to refill their own ink carts and save pay for itself in the first ink refill.

It is not listed on eBay at the moment since I'm working on finishing up other things but it will be there soon.

Trigger



Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by inigo (1/27/08 11:09 AM) reply + / -

I had the same problem (7O - 1G LED flashes) with my i850.
The carriage was performing it's normal startup movements but I could not print with it!

1) Resetting the counter with the service procedure as described above just did not work... Even after several attempts.

2) I disassembled my printer (not that difficult) and cleaned it entirely. There was a lot of dry ink right beneath the printhead cleaning unit on the right side of the printer. The next day I assembled my printer, powered it back on but I got the 7 orange flashes back...

3) Just before disposing of my printer I tried with taking out the printhead for cleaning. Standard procedure: open the lid, wait for the printhead to position in the center, take out the cartridges. Next, take the printhead out and clean it. Use no special cleaning products, just with some tissues. Guess what: I've got my i850 back in the mood for printing!!

!! I would like to thank everybody on this forum for the advice !!
!! It saved me like 250€ for a similar new one !!

Good luck! Inigo from Belgium..........



Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (1/27/08 9:56 PM) reply + / -
inigo,.. The 7 orange flashes you were getting had nothing to do with the Waste ink Error code you were trying to reset. That is why it didn't work. Taking the prnter apart and cleaning everything is what fixed you printer. The 7 orange flashes is telling you there is something wrong with the BJ carriage which really means the printhead. It failed the diagnostic test. I believe you had a dirty contact on the printhead and when you cleaned it you got the function back. However, it could have been one of "N" other things that you fixed.

Good luck anyway.


Re: Re: Canon i560 light flashing orange 3 times by Anonymous (1/30/08 1:34 PM) reply + / -
Anche la mia canon i560 da errore 6000 e lampeggia in verde arancio a seguito di un inceppamento carta. Inoltre quando apro il coperchio, le cartucce d'inchiostro non viengono al centro, rimanendo destra sotto l'involucro.
Non riesco a risolvere il problema!
AIUTO!!!!GRAZIE



Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (1/31/08 9:14 PM) reply + / -
To those of you that have been looking or waiting for my MP730 manual I have just listed on eBay all of my current Repair Manuals which now includes the i550,k560,i850,i860,i950,i960, and finally the MP700 and MP730 Multifunction unit. The manual includes all repair function for each printer selected and it includes the Service Manuals and the parts catalogs, all Canon software updates, Device drivers, the Canon Special Service Information Notices, Color test images, Preventive Maintenance information, and instruction on how to modify and refill you canon ink carts.

These manuals contain detailed instructions and digital photos to show you exactly what you have to do. At $24.99, this is lest than the cost of 2 ink carts, but it will enable you to keep your printer working for years to come. All this information is contained on one CD. If you were to purchase the Service Manual and the Parts Catalog alone, you would spend almost the same and they really don't tell you much at all.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by gautam (2/17/08 8:44 AM) reply + / -
this post is awesome. i am buying a new head.
thanks trigger.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by t643 (2/20/08 5:02 PM) reply + / -
WOW! Trigger 1937, You are one awsome Dude! As with alot of the others on this foram, I was ready to give up on my I850. I even called Canon for help at their so-called Loyalty number 1-866-443-6200 and What a Useless waste of time that was. I got this Tech (Bob Mclain) who told me that he had no knowledge of any canon printer codes, no knowledge of any Refurbished i850's No availability of waste tank pads or other i850 printer parts, that he only knew how to fix computers (software wise)
THEN I stumbled onto this foram and tried resetting the ink tank error code as per your guidance and it worked! I got rid of the 7 blinken lites. (why does the Canon User Guide say 8 for the waste tank? and 7 for the print head, Is that a typo?
The printer is almost perfect now except the print head must have dried out in the five days it took me to fix everything.
The Print head is almost new and was working for six months now with minor cleaning issues. I had recently taken the printer apart,photographing each screw, each piece, each mechanism, each step so I could assemble it properly again, as I do with everything I own from my lawnmower to my car, house, etc.
I love this printer and I realy want to purchase your manual for the Canon I850 but I dread going to E-Bay for it and getting ripped off because some creaton outbid me until I wind up paying ten times the price for your manual and infomation



Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by Anonymous (2/20/08 10:29 PM) reply + / -
t643,.. As far as the error codes of 8 or 7 flashes,.. it is actually both. Don't ask me why, but Canon can generate both error codes for the same problem. I documented this on this forum in some other thread. If you get 8 consequtive orange flashes, this is a warning that you are very close to the limit. If you get alternating 7 orange-green-orange, this is the bad news and the printer will lock up. The first one is the operator error condition and is a warning. The second is a "Service Error" and can not be reset but the way I told you.

This has confused a lot of people because they all think it is the same thing,.. Waste Ink Error.

You can never be ripped off on my ebay listing. These are fixed price and you are not bidding against anyone. It is 24.99 "Buy it Now" price. If you don't want to go through eBay, you can send me a purchase order payment via PayPay for "Canon i850 Repair Manual" and I will send it too you.

One of the things this manuall will do for you is to teach you how to take care of your printhead, and your ink carts, and maintain your printer is good working order,...before it can get into trouble. My CD also provides the Canon Service Manuals, Parts Catalog, and all the Service Bullitens for these printers.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (2/20/08 10:47 PM) reply + / -
Don't know what happened to the last post that I ended up as Anonymous,.. but this was trigger1937?????????????


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by bills (2/22/08 12:22 PM) reply + / -
Trigger,

Do you offer a manual for a Canon ip3000 - if so where can I find it?




Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (2/22/08 10:36 PM) reply + / -
Bills,.. I'm current working everyday on the iP4200 Repair manual. I have the disassemly manual for the iP5000 which is very close to the iP3000, and I have a repair manual for the i960 which has the same inside printer mechanism. The combination of this should help you fix your printer.

What is wrong with your printer.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by Meyanie (2/22/08 11:21 PM) reply + / -
The printer says there is a paper jam, however there's no way for me to dismantle the printer, and for some reason I don't believe it's a paper jam. I even changed the ink but that didn't stop the flashing orange light.

Thanks!


Re: Canon i850 paper thickness & alternating o/g l by SouthernAl (2/23/08 10:34 AM) reply + / -
Hello,

I hear something rotating a cycle when I turn on the Canon i850. However there is no movement on the print head.

The lights are alternating orange/green.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (2/23/08 8:53 PM) reply + / -
Melyanie,... Is your printer the i850? You have to count the number of flashes. Is it alternating green-orange-green-etc. or is it just Green-orange-orange-orange-etc. There is a big difference. However, if you don't have a paper jam and it is still telling you "Jam", your purge unit is probably stuck extended. Open the cover and wait till the printhead comes to the center. Then pull the power cord out of the back. Now you can slide the printhead to the left so you can get access to the purge unit on the right. Use a flashlight and a paper towel and see if the wiper blades that pass under the printhead are stil extended. Press the two ink pads down softly and also wipe the blades. You may have to use a wet paper towel to get some of the ink off the wipers. Use an eye dropper and put some drops of water on top of each ink pad until they are flooded. Close the cover and plug the power back in. Turn the power on/off and let the printer do a couple of cycles to clean out the purge unit. I'll wait for your next post to see what happened.

Same question to SourthernAl.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by SouthernAl (2/24/08 6:18 PM) reply + / -
Yes the lights flash alternating G-O-G-O.

When I turn on the unit - I hear something rotating for a cycle then stop (2-3 seconds). The head does not move at all (even after lifting the cover up).

Thanks in advance for your help!


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (2/24/08 7:44 PM) reply + / -
SouthernAl,... You need to provide more information. What kind of printer is it? How many flashes of orange. Count them because this is telling you what the error code is. What was the printer doing before it failed, or did you just get it from someone else.

I can still read minds,... but you have to be in the next room for it to work really good.!!!!


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (2/24/08 7:52 PM) reply + / -
For those people asking about my Repair manuals and what happen to them,... I have just updated the total list and listed them on eBay. The list now covers all Canon printers from the i550, up through the i960, iP3000,ip4000, ip5000, iP4200, iP6600D, the MP700, MP730 multifunction printers. It now also covers several Hewlett Parkard printers; HP DeskJet 832c,840c,895Cse,960c, and the 990Cse. There is one HP Service Manual that applies to all of these Deskjets.

There are other Canon printers where one of these manual is applicable and they are the iP2000,iP5200, iP6000, and the iP6700D. This listing will only be up for 10 days.

Thanks to all that have made requests for these manuals.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by SouthernAl (2/24/08 8:05 PM) reply + / -
Sorry, my note follows a prior note.

My inkjet printer is a canon i850. I've used it for many years. It failed 2-3 weeks ago when I turned it on (not in a middle of a print job...):

When I turn on the unit - I hear something rotating for a cycle then stop (2-3 seconds). The head does not move at all (even after lifting the cover up). The lights flash alternating G-O-G-O. One green and one orange and one green and one orange repeatably. Since then this all the printer does.

I've have full factory cartridges in the unit.


Thanks in advance for your help!


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (2/24/08 8:49 PM) reply + / -
SouthernAl,.. You didn't read all my note. I have to know how many "Orange" flashes there are.

What it does is there is one "Long" green followed by many alternating "Orange-Green-Orange-----". You have to count the total number of Orange flashes in between the long Green light.

The grinding noise is probably the purge unit gears. Since the head will not move to the center when the cover is opened, the purge unit is either jammed or internally broken. One of the jobs of the purge unit is to "LOCK" the printhead in the park position so it can not move. When the printer first comes on the logic board does a diagnostic check on all functions and one of those is to cycle the purge unit, unlock the head and try and move it across the printer to check the carriage and to see if there are any ink carts installed. If the purge unit is broken or one of the internal gears has slipped, it can't unlock and things will grind.

You have no choice but to disassemble the printer to get at the purge unit. You can't reach the locking lever since it is just inside the right edge of the right side. The i850 has end covers, the top door, and the top cover. If you noticed my post above, I just relisted the Repair Manual on eBay for all the printers and the i850 is in that list. To get at the purge unit, you have to take off all the covers, remove the inside power cables, remove the main printer chassis from the base, and then it really get hard to take the purge unit out of the main chassis. If I were to tell you how to do all of that, it would be the same as printing most of my Repair Manual, all 46 pages, on this forum,... but then there would not be the 35 detailed photos that show you how to do it.

If you have any repair skills at all, my manual will walk you through the repairs you need to do. Plus it will do a lot more for getting your printer back in top shape.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by SouthernAl (2/25/08 5:30 PM) reply + / -
Thanks for being "patient" with me.

There is two orange flashes (alternating G-O-G-O) before the longer green light flashes again.

Does this change your advice or do I still need to proceed to take apart the printer?

Regards




Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (2/26/08 11:25 AM) reply + / -
SouthernAl,... Great, now that we know what the error code is we know what to do . The error you have is a Service Call error which is saying the Timing Strip inside the printer has something wrong with it. It could be as simple as ink all over the timing strip, or it could have come loose, however it could still be that the purge unit lock. If the printhead can't move out of position because it is locked, then the timing strip can't be tested.

Open the cover and use a flashlight to see if the timing strip is still in position. It is a very thin clear mylar strip that runs through the back of the printhead from side to side. If it is loose, it has come off. If not, then I think you're next job is to take the covers off and get at the purge unit locking TAB. You do need the manual to do this. It is currently listed on ebay as item 290209540344.



Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by SouthernAl (2/26/08 7:03 PM) reply + / -
The timing strip is intact and not loose. So it might be the purge unit you mentioned. I just ordered the manual off e-bay.

I'll let you know how things progress.

Thanks for the advice.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (2/26/08 10:09 PM) reply + / -
SouthernAL,.. Thanks very much for your order. I just got the confirmation in my mail. I send a reply and I believe you need the i850 manual but my email to you will still ask you to confirm which manual you want.

Getting back to the grinding noise. I've had that on one other printer and it turned out to be that one of the gears in the purge unit slipped out of the track,...so one gear was turning and the other just clicking but nothing moved.

The good news for you is the i850 is simple to work on once you have the manual. The photographs will show you each step.

Once you get the Manual and take the covers off, send me an email and I can help you jump ahead to the right section of the manual.

Thanks again.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by SouthernAl (3/4/08 12:22 AM) reply + / -
Hi,

I got your CD in the mail. I took off the L, R and top cover per our instructions (great! didn't break anything yet.). Please advise on my next steps. I'll be able to get at the printer after work in the evenings.

Thanks


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange [update] by SouthernAl (3/4/08 6:57 PM) reply + / -
Dear Sir,

You won’t believe this! I took the covers off and “jiggled” (not very technical, eh?) the print head to the left and right and it started moving on the rail again. So now the printer starts up and the head moves on the rail left and parks on the right.

BUT the light sequence has changed to Green and 7 orange flashes and repeats.

Thanks,

Al


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (3/4/08 8:25 PM) reply + / -
SouthernAl,... If it is Long Green then 7 Orange flashes, this is telling you that even though you moved the carriage it is still having problems with the carriage position.

If you have the covers off but the main unit is still in the base, you can reconnect the power and turn the printer on and watch all the initial cycle. Especially watch all of the purge unit section. See section 6.0 of my Manual. If your press the button on the far left of the logic card (This is the button that tells the printer that the top cover is open) the printhead should move to the center. Examine the purge unit. Pull the power cord out and the printhead can now move freely so move it out of the way. Look at my pictures of the purge unit in the manual and manually cycle the purge unit by slowly turning the white gear "Counter clockwise". This will gradually cause the purge unit to cycle through one full cycle and you can see each part of it move. If something is missing or broken you will see it in this cycle. The two black suction pads should slowly lower and the White wiper blade should move forward to wipe the bottom of the printhead and after it is fully extenced the spring should withdraw it to the rear.

All of this is explained in much more detail in the manual so follow the instruction there.




Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by SouthernAl (3/4/08 9:10 PM) reply + / -
Trigger,

Thanks.

When I turn on the printer (covers off, main unit in base), the carriage goes left a couple inches, goes full right, goes 3/4 left, then goes full left and parks full right I think this is normal?

However, when I push the "cover open button", the carriage does NOT respond and move toward the center as you described This is not normal (becauuse in the past with the cover open, the print head would move toward the middle). Is this part of the problem?


Thanks in advance for your help.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (3/4/08 10:03 PM) reply + / -
Al,

The button on the far left as you face the front of the printer in actually not a button but a switch. When the cover is closed, this switch is held "Down". Now that you have taken the covers off, the logic card knows the cover is off all the time. To get the prinhead to move the the center, you have to press and hold the button for about 1 minute, then release it. The head should move to the center.

However, you are telling me that the printhead carriage is doing all the normal power on cycles. Then you should have observed the purge unit and you can tell me if it is doing it's normal cycle. If it is and the printhead still does not come to the center after hold the "Cover" switch down, then this is a sign of a defect printhead. The logic card diagnostics has detected that there is something wrong with the printhead. You should also be getting a different error code from your PC, and you should see a different set of flashing lights when the printhead is in after a power on cycle, and when it is not in.

Tell me what those are.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by SouthernAl (3/5/08 8:23 PM) reply + / -
Trigger,

With the covers off and after I hold the cover switch for a minute or so and let go, the head does not move toward the center. But the light sequence changes to blinking green only when I am holding the switch down. If I let go the cover switch, the light sequence changes back to long green and 7 orange flashes.

Thhe purge unit seems to work (cycling, pads up and down, wiper moving back and forth).

When I try to access the printer through driver on my PC (Win XP) to check the printer ink level, the command from the PC gets hung up in the cue. I pause and clear the cue and try the command several times. No luck. I can't get to the ink level query.

Now, if I take the ink cartridges out and remove the print head. There is no flashing flights when I turn on the printer (normal solid green) and the printhead centers after I hit the cover switch.

So I presume that this all confirms that the print head is the problem? Should I try to clean it?

Thanks for leading me through the woods...

Al




Re: Canon i850 not printing by sonnyfresh (3/6/08 5:29 AM) reply + / -
It seems funny to me that no one can answer a simple question of why my i850 printer doesn"t print only sometimes very light yellow. I went through the whole process of cleaning, deep cleaning, print head alighnment, nozzle cleaning, removing the print head and cleaning with windex, leaving it soak over night, running it under hot water, and even blowing on each port to make sure they were clear.Now what no one has anwered this now for over two weeks. It has to be something simple.


Re: Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by sonnyfresh (3/6/08 11:05 AM) reply + / -
I am also getting eight flashes of orange and then one green. It won't go into any other mode even when I disconnect the power.And when I lift the top the print head only comes out parcially from the right side. The printer status say's "printer off line"


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by carlm21 (3/6/08 9:00 PM) reply + / -
sonneyfresh



Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by carlm21 (3/6/08 9:12 PM) reply + / -
To sonneyfresh
If you have been reading from begining of these posts you would see that eight orange flash's and one green is letting you know your waste ink is full if that is what the flash's are. If you purchased the printer manual for repair from trigger1937 or read his posts you could open the printer and get to the ink absorbing pads which are in very bottom of printer and clean them as trigger says and then put everything back together and see if light dose not change. Approx how old is printer and how many pages have been printed on your printer? Have you tried printing out EEPROM information page or do you know how to do this? Also by cleaning printhead dose not always solve problem if only one outlet is not plugged by old dried up ink. Some times you have to leave the printhead in windex for few days and then dry out and try. If that dosen't work you may have got a bad printhead which can be purchased from canon or from dealers on ebay.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (3/6/08 9:40 PM) reply + / -
sonnyfresh,... well your first problem is that you must be on the wrong forum. I just looked back in this thread and you have not posted ANYTHING here in the last year????? If seems you think people "OWE" you an answer. If you have read through this thread, you would have seen all kinds of answers to your problem, or at least very good clues.

Anyway, here is something you don't want to hear. About 95% of the time, when the printhead won't come out to the center when the cover is open, it is a defective printhead. No amount of cleaning is going to fix it. It probably has a burnt out nozzle in one or more of the colors. The printer is not going to try to print anything once it has diagnosed such a problem.

You need a new printhead.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by sonnyfresh (3/7/08 4:29 AM) reply + / -
Trigger1937, I apologise if I come off sounding like sarcastic I believe that i was in the wrong forum but I appreciate you answering my problem anyway. This symtom started after I removed the printhead again and cleaned the back and bottom with a paper towel. Is it posible that I may have contamitated the contacs? The reason that I did this was that it wasn't printing and sometimes it only printed in very light yellow. Thank you for your responce.


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by simplyme (3/8/08 12:11 AM) reply + / -
This isn't necessarily for the i850, but my iP3000 is flashing 5 oranges, then steady green.

I've read through and i've tried some of the methods, with no success. I assume I'll have to go out to get a new printhead? :(


Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange by trigger1937 (3/8/08 9:35 PM) reply + / -
simplyme,.. For the iP3000, the 5 flashing orange then green is telling you the printhead is not installed correctly,..because the printer diagnostics did not get the correct response from the EEprom.

Open the covers of the printer and wait till the carriage moves away from the park position and stops. Then unplug the power cord from the back of the printer. Then move the carriage by had to the center of printer and take out the ink carts, take out the printhead, clean the contacts on the back of the head using Isopropyl Alcohol, and then clean the contacts on the inside of the carriage. Be carefull to only wipe downward on these spring loaded contacts. Make sure none are bent.

While you have the carriage moved over to the center, use a flashlight to examine the purge unit. You want to confirm that nothing is stuck or jammed. With a paper towel you should be able to softly press the pads down. You should also be able to pull the white wiper blade forward and release it back.

Re-install the head and the ink carts and re-plug the power. Press the power on button and closed the cover and the printer should go through all the normal power on testing again.

If does not make any changes then there is one more item to try.
Go way back in this thread to 11/03/07 and read a post I made on how to get into the service mode. Once you are there you can try to initialize the EEprom. The problem is that the data here is not matching the data being read at the power on diagnostics. The reset my clear the problem,...if this is what th problem is. If it does not, it could be a damaged printhead.




Re: Canon i850 light flashing orange / IP3000 same by Tiggzz (3/15/08 9:12 AM) reply + / -